Has anyone rolled the dice and had one change before the turn was over? Sounds crazy, but it's happened many times. For instance, you roll a 4 and 6, click to move 4 and the 6 changes to a 5? No, I don't need my eyes checked! If it happened only once, I wouldn't be asking everyone! :)
I certainly haven't. Now one of two things come to mind, there is a small small chance that there is some kind of screen redraw bug. It is very unlikely, but has to be mentioned. The more likely scenario (and the one you are unlikely to like) is that your brain is your own worst enemy.
The way we see is a very tricky thing. The truth is we don't really read the patterns we see, not unless we are paying specific attention, what our brain does is to read the shape of what we see and then make an assumption about what it is. Most of the time we are right. When we aren't normally the brain takes a closer look and corrects its answer.
(People who have dyslexia (like myself) have a problem at this stage. The way the brain interprets the shapes and corrects doesn't work the way it should because the connection between the shape an the related letter aren't as tight as they should be.)
But the problem with dice is that they are a little tricky to read in the first place, and we are scanning all over looking at the board and dice, and the pips remaining; and sometimes we cross our eyes a little; or we clench our teeth (which can make your monitor appear to jump), or something very subtle and for a moment one of the dots doesn't get noticed (or is noticed on the other die) and at that moment we make our first impression of what the dice mean.
No one likes being told it is an optical illusion, but I will bet you dollars to yummy yummy donuts that that is what is happening in your case. When I see things like that happen (never seen it with the dice, but I have seen that kind of illusion elsewhere) is that before I decided what the dice say I blink three times then look (to force myself to look at it fresh). Or I might have a notebook to track what it is when it happens and to see if it changes.
Thank you for the explanation. It is very thorough. I believe you that our eyes can play tricks on us, however, my son had double threes change last night to a three and a five. No system is perfect and it's really nothing more than a minor inconvenience if you happen to have rolled something beneficial and it changes to something else.
It does happen. But, really I'm not worried about it! Like another player told me - at least the games are fun and free!
The Pocket-Monkey systems are indeed far from perfect. :-) But just for the reassurance of anyone reading this thread, I want to paraphrase a bit from the response I sent you on this originally when you wrote via the Contact Us link.
First, I don't doubt what you're saying. Second, the dice are not changing, although it may look like they are. That seems contradictory, but bear with me. :-)
I can totally believe that the display of the dice might, quite rarely, be wrong in the non-Java games (which I see you're using). But once a roll is recorded on the game, it cannot be changed and only that roll can actually be played; I was very careful writing that code and there are safeguards in place to prevent that, safeguards which -- 4+ years later -- I'm sure are working correctly. But again, I can totally believe there's a display problem with the non-Java games, and that would make it appear that the dice were changing. This may seem like an academic or esoteric point, but I don't think it is: If I were hoping and praying for a 5, and I seem to get a 5, but then the 5 disappears and is replaced with a 4, it matters to me whether the die was rolled as a 5 and then changed, or if it was rolled as a 4 but somehow was just shown to me wrong at first. :-)
No one else has reported this happening. However, there is a different problem that people have reported in the past: Is it possible that when this happens, the site is actually jumping you from one game to another? E.g., you're seeing that you have a 5 in your game with Joe, but then you click to make a move and suddenly you have a 4 -- but it's in your game with Elsie, you're now looking at a different game. Jumping between games like that is a known problem we're working on (a bit indirectly; we're actually rewriting the non-Java games entirely).
If that's not it, you may have noticed a new display problem no one else has mentioned. But the dice actually rolled, once they're rolled, cannot be changed and the site will only allow valid moves using those dice. They do not change as you are making your move.
OMG - I thought it was me! I roll the dice and I see them and move acordingly BUT then the moves are wrong because the dice are different from what I saw first, It has happened many, many times, but I figured I read it wrong. Now I know someone else is having the same problem I won't feel as if I'm losing my mind. LOL
No T.J. it's not in another game, it's in the one I'm playing. The dice change but the person I'm playing does not.
Well Tracy, thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one. Thought I needed glasses (or put them on LOL)
As with my reply to Tracy, I'm not disputing your observation, but again I want to be crystal clear about the fact that the actual roll in the game is not changing. It can't. The display of the dice may be wrong at first (it sounds like that's what you're seeing), but the game rolls the dice once and then will only allow valid moves for the dice it rolled. It's exactly the same situation as in a real-life game where you roll the dice and you see a 43, but when you go to move the 4 your opponent says "Hey, wait, you don't have a 4" and you look back and realize you've seen the dice wrong and you actually have a 53. I'm not saying you're seeing the dice wrong, but rather than your browser is showing them to you wrong. The actual roll is not changing, but it sounds like for whatever reason your browser is showing you the roll incorrectly at first. -- T.J. Crowder First Primate Pocket-Monkey.com
T.J. I read your reply to Tracey and totally understand. It's no big deal - just that now I know I'm not looseing my mind and thinking I saw one roll and got another. No Problem. Thanks for all you do Bev
for 2 weeks now i thought i was miss reading my rolls, i open a game it has highlighed the six for first roll and i have a 1, i want to move the 1 first, so click the 1 to make the move to find it is a 2, so then i have to re calc. my move. i never thought anything about it till i saw this on board.
I've never been here before tonight and i'm glad i did. I will give game # next time it happens as i catch it, hope it helps. I guess it's a fluke but it's happened alot, i just past it off and made my moves.
I have had this feeling too, you think you saw a 6 2, and when you move it was a 6 3, just undo and rethink. I have also come across this on another site I used to play, and it was reported that the dice changed, think we have spots before the eye, us backgammon players. :-)
oh my i've had 8 plus games with 6 and 1 so far nothing. i guess its been fixed. or i haven't gotten the mix up yet but i like the fact the dice roll i play, cool, no dice before my eyes,lol so to speak.
Just read this myself for the first time too...i realize this thread is old...but to me it has happened ALOT and this morning a couple times already. I am playing Java games too...glad i am not alone either!!!!
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